U.S., Russia fight over asteroid that could destroy Earth

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verus rex

verus rex

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BARELY two weeks after the failure of a doomsday prediction by a United States (U.S.) based preacher, Russia and U.S. scientists are at war over another perceived threat to human existence.

The danger this time is not an apocalyptic occurrence, but the smacking of the Earth by a giant asteroid in five months time.

The potentially perilous space rock is known as Asteroid 2005 YU55, a round mini-world that is about 1,300 feet (400 metres) in diametre.

According to U.S. scientists, this asteroid will approach the Earth within a scant 0.85 lunar distances in early November.

Due to its size, and the way it will whisk by so close to the Earth, an extensive campaign of radar, visual and infrared observations are being planned.

U.S. scientists say there is no cause for alarm, but the Russians have issued a report saying there’s something to fear.



NASA rejects the Russian report, calling the chances of the asteroid hitting the Earth ‘minuscule’.

Asteroid 2005 YU55 was discovered by Spacewatch at the University of Arizona, Tucson’s Lunar and Planetary Laboratory on December 28, 2005.

According to Spacewatch, the asteroid is “en route and headed our way, the cosmic Wanderer is another reminder about life here on our sitting duck of a planet’.

“The close Earth approach of 2005 YU55, on November 8, is unusual since it is close and big. On average, one wouldn’t expect an object this big to pass this close but every 30 years,” said Don Yeomans, manager of NASA’s Near-Earth Object Programme Office and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Yeomans said that with new radar capabilities at Goldstone in California — part of NASA’s Deep Space Network — there is a good chance of obtaining radar imaging of 2005 YU55 down to the five-meter resolution level. Doing so, he said, would mean obtaining higher spatial resolution of the object than that attained by recent spacecraft flyby missions.

“So, we like to think of this opportunity as a close flyby mission with Earth as the spacecraft,” Yeomans told SPACE.com. “When combined with ground-based optical and near-infrared observations, the radar data should provide a fairly complete picture of one of the larger potentially hazardous asteroids,” he said.

Asteroid 2005 YU55 is a slow rotator. Because of its size and proximity to Earth, the Minor Planet Centre in Cambridge, Massachusetts, has designated the space rock as a “potentially hazardous asteroid”.

“We’re already preparing for the 2005 YU55 flyby,” said Lance Benner, a research scientist at JPL and a specialist on radar imaging of near-Earth objects. He said part of the plan was to observe the asteroid with radar, using both the huge Arecibo dish in Puerto Rico and equipment at Goldstone.

“The asteroid will approach from the south, so Goldstone has the first chance to observe it due to its declination coverage,” Benner said.

To help coordinate the observing campaigns, “Radar Observations Planning” websites have been set up for the unusual occasion, Benner said.

“This flyby will be the closest by any near-Earth asteroid with an absolute magnitude this bright since 1976 and until 2028,” Benner added. “Nobody saw 2010 XC15 during its close flyby, within 0.5 lunar distances, in 1976.”

U.S., Russia fight over asteroid that could destroy Earth
 
bart5050

bart5050

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The link is broken.
I get internal server error.
Looks like this one is going to be a bullet burn.

Most of the slower rotating asteroids are conglomerates.
So it is more than likely not as dense as a metallic one.
And at 1,500 feet across it is likely not a global threat.
But, it could make for a very bad day on a regional sclale.
If it is conglomerate, it might break into small pieces and burn up in the atmosphere.
That is, if it should hit.

The one that killed Dino was 6 miles in diameter.
So this one is considerably smaller.
Still, I wouldn't enjoy it coming down right over me.

I think they are likely correct and it will zip by us at 85 percent of the moons distance, or about 200,000 miles.
Which is very close on solar system scales.
Kind of like a bullet that musses your hair.

But, it is a reminder that one of them is eventually going to impact.
We need to get out there and learn how to change their orbits to our advantage.
If it were going to hit, right now at this point in time, we don't have a lot of options.

A few decades ago one skipped off the atmosphere over Alaska and went careaning back into space.
A lot depends on the angle.
That one was before we were looking for them.
But photos of it's fiery streak through the upper atmosphere suggest it was big enough to do some damage.
 
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armageddongirl

armageddongirl

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What could be done in the future to avoid close calls like this? Are there any designs or plans in place?
What options do we have?
 
bart5050

bart5050

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What could be done in the future to avoid close calls like this? Are there any designs or plans in place?
What options do we have?

There are a number of plans on the drawing board on how to change their path.
But, we don't know how effective they would be because we have never tested any of them.
And we don't have anything at the ready.

How early it can be found is a major factor.
Two years from impact wouldn't require much of a change in path.
A few days out is a lot more problematical.

Identifying them and mapping their orbits is a big deal.
We need a space based infrastructure.
 
armageddongirl

armageddongirl

Lost in time.....
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Thanks Bart. Sometimes I cant help but wish I had your brain :D
 
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KellyD

Investigator
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nasa is currently working on a way to deflect these things.....but i think they should be careful because we dont really know what reaction a deflection will cause either.....some things are just meant to be and i worry about altering things in our universe.

the russians seem convinced that this one is going to hit.....i think its because they do not believe that the u.s. has properly adjusted data to compensate for elenin coming in near the same time.

the u.s. probably doesnt think there is any threat because here in the states we are invincible and know everything.
 
bart5050

bart5050

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The US has more experiance than anyone in space exploration and tracking objects.
I have a lot of confidence in their abilities.

The Nigerian Compass does not impress me as being a great source of information.
They don't site any sources for their info.
There is a lot of dubious stuff claimed to come from Russia these days.
 
bart5050

bart5050

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Asteroid 2005 YU55 to Approach Earth on November 8, 2011

Near-Earth asteroid 2005 YU55 will pass within 0.85 lunar distances from the Earth on November 8, 2011. The upcoming close approach by this relatively large 400 meter-sized, C-type asteroid presents an excellent opportunity for synergistic ground-based observations including optical, near infrared and radar data. The attached animated illustration shows the Earth and moon flyby geometry for November 8th and 9th when the object will reach a visual brightness of 11th magnitude and should be easily visible to observers in the northern and southern hemispheres. The closest approach to Earth and the Moon will be respectively 0.00217 AU and 0.00160 AU on 2011 November 8 at 23:28 and November 9 at 07:13 UT.
 
bart5050

bart5050

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Radar Clicks Asteroid's Pic - NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory

"At one time we had classified 2005 YU55 as a potential threat," said Steve Chesley, a scientist at JPL's Near-Earth Object Program Office. Prior to the Arecibo radar passes on April 19 thru 21, we had eliminated almost all upcoming Earth flybys as possibilities of impact. But there were a few that had a low remaining probability of impact. After incorporating the data from Arecibo, we were able to rule impacts out entirely for the next 100 years."
 
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doggie1955

Curious
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Okay, let's see!
Comet Honda, will be here this Aug.
Comet/Brown Dwarf Elenin, will be here this Oct. ( this is not a comet)
2005 YU55, will be here this Nov.
Comet Levy, will be here next Jan.

WOW, a lot coming at us all at once.
And Elenin is towing 3 moons & over a million asteroids. (This is the one that is go to get us)
 
unknown55

unknown55

Researcher
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Asteroid 2005 YU55 to Approach Earth on November 8, 2011

Near-Earth asteroid 2005 YU55 will pass within 0.85 lunar distances from the Earth on November 8, 2011. The upcoming close approach by this relatively large 400 meter-sized, C-type asteroid presents an excellent opportunity for synergistic ground-based observations including optical, near infrared and radar data. The attached animated illustration shows the Earth and moon flyby geometry for November 8th and 9th when the object will reach a visual brightness of 11th magnitude and should be easily visible to observers in the northern and southern hemispheres. The closest approach to Earth and the Moon will be respectively 0.00217 AU and 0.00160 AU on 2011 November 8 at 23:28 and November 9 at 07:13 UT.

Since the asteroid will approach the Earth from the sunward direction, it will be a daylight object until the time of closest approach. The best time for new ground-based optical and infrared observations will be late in the day on November 8, after 21:00 hours UT from the eastern Atlantic and western Africa zone. A few hours after its close Earth approach, it will become generally accessible for optical and near-IR observations but will provide a challenging target because of its rapid motion across the sky.


Although classified as a potentially hazardous object, 2005 YU55 poses no threat of an Earth collision over at least the next 100 years. However, this will be the closest approach to date by an object this large that we know about in advance and an event of this type will not happen again until 2028 when asteroid (153814) 2001 WN5 will pass to within 0.6 lunar distances.

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Just saw this link was already posted..good eye bart (y)
 
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bart5050

bart5050

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Okay, let's see!
Comet Honda, will be here this Aug.
Comet/Brown Dwarf Elenin, will be here this Oct. ( this is not a comet)
2005 YU55, will be here this Nov.
Comet Levy, will be here next Jan.

WOW, a lot coming at us all at once.
And Elenin is towing 3 moons & over a million asteroids. (This is the one that is go to get us)

Elenin is a comet.
This has been confirmed.
It does not have the mass, size, or behavior to be a brown dwarf.
And it has no objects in tow.

October is not far off.
So this will be verified very soon, to everyones satisfaction.

As for a lot coming at us at once.
There are a lot of bodies in the solar system.
None are particuarly aimed at us.

We just have this ego centric religiously driven perception that gives many a delusion that the universe was manufactured as a process to test our faiths to failure.
 
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doggie1955

Curious
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Elenin is a comet.
This has been confirmed.
It does not have the mass, size, or behavior to be a brown dwarf.
And it has no objects in tow.

October is not far off.
So this will be verified very soon, to everyones satisfaction.

As for a lot coming at us at once.
There are a lot of bodies in the solar system.
None are particuarly aimed at us.

We just have this ego centric religiously driven perception that gives many a delusion that the universe was manufactured as a process to test our faiths to failure.

Sorry to say, Elenin is a brown dwarf. You are being told, that it is a Comet.
How do I know this, My older Brother works at Goldstone.
(I had 3 more attachments to send, but I guess it did not fit)
 
Castle-Bravo354

Castle-Bravo354

Pioneer
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Sorry to say, Elenin is a brown dwarf. You are being told, that it is a Comet.
How do I know this, My older Brother works at Goldstone.
(I had 3 more attachments to send, but I guess it did not fit)

doggie....were you going to send the remainder of the attachments?....that single one doesn't show anything.

unknown....that is a great diagram!!!
 
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