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From: Johnathan Ankers
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08/12/05 |
Subject: Sue Dewsbury's message no.22
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I
had a chuckle about Mr. Hawkesworth being responsible for Sue becoming a
chemistry teacher. I'm afraid he inadvertently had the opposite effect on me
as I didn't even do O-level. We used to have tests every Friday and if you
didn't get at least 7 out of 10 you had the pleasure of 50 lines! I never did
have to do the lines, but I remember worrying about it quite a bit! I last
saw Mr.Hawkesworth at the church at the bottom of Sherwood Rise in Forest
Fields where he may have been a lay preacher, but that was when we were
having the bans read twenty-seven years ago!
Whilst I am writing, I was very pleased earlier this year that the construction company I work for, as accountant, won the contract to build the new science block for the School. The building has been recently finished and looks very impressive! There is also at least one other senior member of the company who is ex-C-le-W, although from the comprehensive era.
I will write in to Salix soon and recount some memories, especially about rugby! I had better wait until Mr.Roberts is safely in Canada. Wouldn't want to bow down to that slipper again!
Jonathan Ankers 1965-72 |
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j Thanks, Jonathan. If you haven’t found it yet, Sue Dewsbury’s message was posted in March 2004 – so this message board can get results even if you have to wait a bit. Better than snail mail – bet you can’t now find the message you got from Aunty Flo last Christmas, can you? |
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From: Debra Burrows
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02/12/05 |
Subject: from Las Vegas, Nevada
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Hi folks, Thanks to the site for the
info on my old school! However, I was not a Grammar School type, I attended the
school from 1976-82 when it was a comprehensive school. I would love to find
information on the characters who attended the school at that time, as well
as some of the teachers who were instrumental in forming my interests today. I live in the United States
– thanks for the web site. Debra M. Burrows |
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j Thanks for getting in touch, Debra. If there’s anyone else out there who’d like info on the later school periods, send us a message too. And if there’s anyone who can send us information, especially if it’s about the school as Debra knew it, we’d be very keen to put it up. Messages to the commonroom@carltonlewillowsgs.org.uk of course, and if you’ve something longer and/or photos to send us send them to webmaster@carltonlewillowsgs.org.uk. The website’s open to anyone connected with the school, but of course as Grammar School pupils we don’t have anything ourselves about the later periods. See if you can help us. |
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From: David Roberts
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30/11/05 |
Subject: Reply (40)
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Well, well is it good to hear
from someone who appreciated the School, not least for the mention I get!
Though I don't remember the slippering thing, I wasn't very good at it. The
only boy I remember was one I found stealing from other boy's pockets whilst
they were in the gym, a crime he would have been expelled for. Even so I
think I only gave him two smacks.I believe he went on to be a doctor.Still it
obviously gives David something to talk about. I'm off to live in
Victoria Canada on December 11th 2005. so this e-mail of mine will shut down
on December 9th. When I'm settled over there no doubt I shall get back on
line. In the mean time, thanks for the memories, they were great times for
me. David Roberts |
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j Bon Voyage, Mr. Roberts! Thanks for all the messages, and we hope you’ll stay in touch through the website. |
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From: Pat Tavner
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28/11/05 |
Subject: Ramble
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I wondered if it would be
appropriate to thank David, through the web
site,for an excellent day out yesterday, on the ramble in Lathkill Dale. He had really done a great
job, and although we were only six, we all thoroughly enjoyed the day. The route was interesting and scenic,
hardly touching a road at all, walking by the river and then, after a couple
of short climbs, we were looking at magnificent views all around. Our lunch stop had also
been well researched, consequently it
came at the right time and place. It
was very welcome, delicious food by an open fire. We happily continued on a gentle stretch of the walk back to
the car park at Over Haddon, reflecting on what a pleasant day we had
spent. We all agreed that we would look forward to
the next ramble that David promised to do, and hopefully more members would
be able to join us. So to David many thanks
again from 5 tired but happy ramblers. Pat Tavner |
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j David’s been a rambler ever since school days, (you can read his first report on the Le Willows Rambling club elsewhere on the site) and though I wasn’t there last Sunday I can imagine how enjoyable it would have been since I’ve done roughly that walk myself in the Autumn. Though I can’t say we kept to our schedule as effectively as you seem to have managed. That shows experience! |
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From: Richard Pool
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28/11/05 |
Subject: Schooldays
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While waiting to set off
to Luton airport to collect my wife (she's been in Madrid on business) I wandered
into the site. The last message brought back memories of the school. I was
there from 1969-1976. I was part of the sae rugby team referred to by David.
sorry David I've not quite placed you unless you had blonde hair, then I
think I've got you! I played second row behind Stephen, alongside Gary (?)
North. I can still picture the faces of other team members, but some names
elude me! Was it Paul Carter who
joined in our second or third year and joined the first team? I used to travel in from
Calverton on the coach. I seem to remember there were three and didn't we
call them bus "A", "B" and "C". In 73 we moved
away from the village and I started to travel on the NCT No.25 as I recall. It's all such a long time ago! |
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j Another welcome to the Common Room! Though it’s a surprise to know we can be found at Luton airport – one of those stand-up surfing machines that cost a fortune? Richard must have been at the School during the changeover to a Comprehensive. If he joined the Society he’d be one of our youngest members. |
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From: David Rendell
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16/11/05 |
Subject: From a grateful former pupil
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I have just found your
site and finished browsing the common room and what a wonderful find. Although I was at the
school a short time from 1969 to '71, they were without doubt the happiest
spent at any school and a great influence. It is wonderful to see
that Dai Roberts is still so engaged.
Dai, I was one of the most useless rugby players you taught but I was
so proud when you made me 2nd XV sub for one game before I left (you wisely
didn't use me). Annoyingly you made
my brother Nick (he attended in the first year only), captain of the year
group 1st XV. I remember some of
those in my year group 1st team, Gary Huddlestone, Stephen Armstrong, Paul
Humphries (Barrell) and David Sidebotham were I think the front row, David
Gillespie, Glyn Krause, and I suspect Michael Lord must have been in there
too and I recall one of the sixth formers from that time, Jim Panter got into
or close to an England schoolboys cap.
Mr Roberts, you will no doubt correct me. I only ever got caned at
school once and that was a slipper from Dai together with a number of others
for not taking a shower after games and I still recount to anyone who will
listen, my first games lesson sitting in a circle learning how to lace a
boot. I still lace all my shoes the
same way today! In my 3rd year my form
teacher was Alan Ward and he helped Dai with rugby that year; he punted the
ball further than anyone I had seen.
Alan was great because he gave me 10/10 for my map colouring each
week! I am so glad he went on to
become deputy head, I know what a wonderful example he would have been in
that role. Others mentioned on the
site that I recall are of course Mr Riley ( my mother still has my 'touch
toy' and a stunning wooden train I constructed in woodwork), Mr Makins (lethal with a blackboard rubber) and
Mr Langton. Those not mentioned whom I
recall are Mr Leary a wonderful teacher of History, Mr Gutteridge, Maths, Mrs
Newman and Miss Kershaw both form teachers of mine. My best subject however was Art with Mr Marriott. My only published work in the school mag
was a pen and ink of a good friend of mine, Frank Flood. Frank, Harry Grainger, Tony Taylor and I
were as thick as theives. For me the though the lasting influence of the school were the figureheads. 'TED' Dowman, Ike Stamper and Dai Roberts stand out. TED put in my last report 'Aim High'. I suspect he said the same to everyone, but I have taken it to heart in all that I have subsequently done. |
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j Welcome to the Common Room, David, and thanks for getting in touch. I was only hit once by a teacher, too: in leafy Surrey, though, not Carlton, and when I was slightly under 5 years old. The teacher discovered I could already read before starting school, and thought I was trying to be clever. The lesson seemed to be that if you think that being clever’s clever, you aren’t so clever as you think you are. Mercifully, it’s a lesson I was able to forget when I came to Carlton le Willows. Wonder if that’s still true? |
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From: Marcia Malia
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12/6/05 |
Subject: Bill Todd (038)
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It's amazing, isn't
it? Neither my brother, Martin, nor I
knew anything of the information Colin has imparted but we are not surprised
(though if there was ever a harmonium in the family we would have liked to
have known about it). I suppose you
could almost call Dad secretive, to add to the other adjectives; either that,
or maybe he didn't think that some of these things were important in the long
run. I've been in touch with
Colin since he wrote his comments and he has imparted one or two further
gems, one being a memory of my father once operating an organ stop, when both
his hands were occupied playing, by lifting a leg up above the organ keyboard
and pressing the stop with his foot.
He apparently explained his pediacal dexterity by the fact that he had
been a ballroom dancer in his youth (the first we've heard of it)! I said in my article that
neither Martin nor I ever felt that we really knew our father. What amazed me when writing was the way in
which I was carried along and the article actually ended up in a totally
different way to that which I had expected.
As far as we are concerned
Dad was an enigma, and the more we can find out about him, the better. We were always hopeful of learning more
about how others saw him, but the comments dried up very quickly. Any further observations will be
gratefully received, to add to our picture.
My own children in particular, now in their thirties (the eldest is
nearly 40, ye gods!) feel that they never knew their grandfather. Thank-you, CLeWGSS, for
getting me to do the exercise in the first place. What I learned above all
is that writing about your parents should be compulsory. Otherwise who will
know about them after you are gone?
So get down to it, everyone! Any more stories about Dad?? |
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From: Colin Pykett
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16/05/05 |
Subject: Bill Todd
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Rather belatedly, I've
just read Marcia's interesting and moving account of her father whom we all
knew so well. She mentioned that she
knew little about how he developed his
musical education, but I always thought it was stunningly broad and deep
(though alas I still speak as an amateur, having been persuaded by Toddy
among others to pursue science as a career!). However the following
might be of interest. As an organist, I was
always astonished at his musicianship skills at the keyboard, particularly in
transposition at sight and in extemporisation. After a lesson one day in
Room 5, he explained how it was so important to have a good grasp of key,
and proceeded to demonstrate how to move from one to another via a seemly
procession of modulations. He asked me to give him an awkward one, so I
suggested from F major to C# minor (or something like that). He gave one of his
famous laughs and then just did it. When I went on to ask how
he had achieved this level of skill, he said that as a boy he was
temporarily blind for a year or so as a result of some sort of eye treatment, and had
to wear bandages all the time. Either
his mother or grandmother had a
harmonium, and he spent hours, day after day, just playing "by
ear". And that is how he came to
have that intuitive sense of key and grasp of the
keyboard. I don't know whether
Marcia is aware of this, but it's a
remarkable story and I remember him telling
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j Colin’s message was sent to the site for forwarding to Bill Todd’s daughter Marcia, who wrote the article in the ‘About the School’ section. We did that, but we also asked Colin if we might post this in the Common Room and he agreed. |
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From: Neil Lane
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24/05/05 |
Subject: 1959 to 1961
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I was briefly at the
school in the 6th form between 1959 and 1961 after transferring from
Cavendish Road Secondary Modern. I then left for teacher
training. I spent most of 70s at the
Uni of Sheffield studying philosophy. I am still working but expecting to
retire in just under three years time.
I live in Cheltenham and work in the in the School of Education at the
Uni. of Gloucestershire. Anyone remember me. |
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j That’d make Neil part of the second or third year ever of sixth-formers at the school, so maybe I should remember him – but I’m afraid I don’t. If you do, please send us a message. People today complain that the ‘Grammar School system’ condemned a good many worthy people to a second-class education from age 11, but they forget about the constant opportunities for ‘late developers’ to transfer, right through their secondary school careers. Le Willows accepted a good many of these and – I think – made them welcome. And as we now know through this site and the Society, it worked out well for all of us. |
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From: David Roberts
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05/05/05 |
Subject: Bursary
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I wonder if members had been informed of the proposed Allan Ward Memorial Bursary. Should that not be the case I would urge those who remember Allan, and may wish make a donation, to contact The Deputy Headteacher Mr L. Reddington, at the School. David Roberts |
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From: Libby Lippiatt
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29/03/05 |
Subject: Hello
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I am enjoying browsing the
website. Well done on the hard work involved! My amazing mother (of 6
children) preserved memorabilia including Opening Day booklet as on your site,
some school mags and - ugh - my report. Some of my memories at C le W: - a scary first day with
re-assurance from form teacher Mr Fish - I was in 1R - when he said we could
cry on his shoulder! - hymn singing with Mr
Marshall or Mr Todd I remember the challenge of singing well! - the classical records we
listened to fafter assembly - the day when we were
singing the line "when we share earth's wretched crust"and not a
few of us suddenly stared at a teacher Mrs Crust (is my memory correct about
this teacher? Was she the Miss Ford whose husband was killed?) - hours of subject and
predicate exercises in a pink exercise bk which I still possess!! I taught
English for a short time..am better at reading than writing!! as you can
tell.. - beginning of Autumn term
1957, the shock of hearing our headmaster Mr Marshall had died. I have since
met up with Tim Marshall in Carlisle, where we now live, who described how he
had to start school following his father's death. Tim saw my name in Salix.
My father's moving jobs meant changing schools, Oct '57, so I hadn't met Tim before but it was fun to
chat about staff and pupils. Strange that his family moved from Cumberland to
Nottm and mine vice versa. My Cumbrian school was the Nelson Thomlinson
Grammar School, Wigton - that of the
famous Melvyn Bragg and Anna Ford!! At C le W can remember
nearly all the people in my forms 1R, 2B and (briefly) 3A; kept in touch for
short while with Pat Taylor and Michelle Brookes and still write to Mary
Truman. My husband and I lived in Lenton 1974 - 78 so Mary and I did meet up
but life was then busy with children and work! It was especially good to
have some recent emails from Pat, now Taverner, who encouraged me to try to
come to a reunion! David Freeman also once
emailed me. We had clergyman fathers in common! tinkhe left soon after me.. I was in the same hall of
residence at Goldsmith's College as Liz Watts now Evans(a year ahead of me)
though did not realise we had been at C le W together until recently when we
emailed each other about it.. I really enjoyed Marcia's
account of her father How nice of her to share that with photos. I met Marcia once near the Albert Hall
when we were both students in London! Apologies that this is a rushed
attempt but wanted to communicate my appreciation of the society and work
done, as always, by the few. I would love to hear from
anyone who feels like emailing.. Yours, Libby Lippiatt(nee Elizabeth Titcombe)1955 - '57 |
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j Thanks for these memories, Libby – glad you enjoyed the site. We don’t publish email addresses here, but if anyone wants to send a message to Libby, send it to webmaster@carltonlewillowsgs.org.uk and we’ll forward it, with the email address of the sender, so she can reply direct. If you were to join the Society, Libby, your own email address would appear in our membership directory, sent to all members and you’d have all their email addresses too. |
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From: David Roberts
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25/02/05 |
Subject: Roy Barlow
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Alan
Streather is correct in so far as Roy Barlow was in charge of boys Hockey,
and as was the attitude of all the staff, gave a great deal of time encouraging
boys to play,various *games, but he didn't start it. Hockey was being
played to some extent before I arrived in 1961, and the man in charge then,
and until Roy Barlow arrived, was Keith James(Latin?). The result of their
inspiration and efforts saw the formation of Carlton le Willows Old Boys
Hockey Club. One of my claims to fame was that I was elected as their
President. David
Roberts *not soccer of course! (Ho, Ho) |
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From: David Roberts
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19/02/05 |
Subject: Alan Ward
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I have just received the tragic news that Alan Ward (Geography,
and latterly Deputy Head) has been killed in a head on car crash. The funeral
is on Tuesday February 22nd 2005 at St. Giles Church Sandiacre. Our thoughts
at this time are with his wife Joy and daughter Elizabeth. He was a fantastic
friend and colleague. In answer to Brian Roe and others the member of staff killed on
his way to school riding his bike, was Roy Barlow (Msc. St John's Oxford)
Head of physics and later head of Science. The year was 1975. |
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From: Alan Streather
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18/02/05 |
Subject: Re: Brian Roe (028)
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I think this may be a
reference to Mr. Barlow who was killed a while after I left in 1970 in a road
accident very close to the school. He was knocked off his bicycle, I believe
and I was told the event plunged the whole school into shock, not least because
it had been witnessed I think by some of the pupils on their way to school. Mr. Barlow taught me for a
while and he had a knack of asking me a question at just the point where I
was about to fall asleep in one of his lessons. My tendency to fall asleep
was no reflection of his teaching skill: it had more to do with the fact that
Physics lessons often seemed to be towards the end of the day and the sun
streaming in through the Physics lab window seemed to have a soporific effect
on me. I found Physics
interesting in fact, so much so that I opted to take the subject at A level
despite not really being very good at it. If I remember rightly, it
was Mr. Barlow who founded the boys' hockey team at the school. At any rate
he was certainly very influential in encouraging boys to play hockey at the
school. I did not feature in the team but can still say that hockey was the
one sport I tried at which I was not 100% useless. Regards, Alan |
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From: Val Hunter
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14/01/05 |
Subject: Dickie Bird
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Mr Bird was known as
Dickie by those of us who were in his form.
He did indeed teach English and also Russian, though I don't
personally recall anyone having lessons at the time, unless it was someone in
the sixth form. It must have been either
early 1960 or before when he was killed as that was the year I left. The only other death
during those years was indeed the gentleman who Miss Ford married. She hadn't
been married long when that happened. Does anyone have the
whereabouts of Barbara Badger who taught French? Also Millie Dixon who taught
French ?(much admired by the boys) What about Sid Wood and Pat and also Fred
Pennell. Please if anyone knows how to contact them let the committee know. Val Hunter (nee Coker) |
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jTo let the committee know
contact details (which we don’t want to broadcast on the web), email committee@carltonlewillowsgs.org.uk
. Or put a message here, and we’ll remove the actual contact
details before publishing it. I
think ‘Millie Dixon’ might have been the lady teacher I was referring to in
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From: Robert Hardy
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11/01/05 |
Subject: Mr. Tom Bird
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Marcia has beaten me to
the draw. Laziness on my behalf, just
as I was at school. Tom Bird taught
me history 1959-1960, my third year.
Looking in my school report he enabled me to gain my best results in
any subject throughout my five years.
I also vaguely recall him getting married and the staff somehow moving
his blue mini on to the playing field prior to his marriage. He was also very interested in sport and
took us for cross-country running and also accompanied us on the school trip
to the Rome Olympics in 1960. My
wife, Jennifer Thornley as was, remembers him commenting during this trip
"You're treating these bus queues like rugby scrums. They're not. They're much worse!"
The only other death I can remember was the fiance of my first year
form mistress, Miss Ford I believe, in 1957.
Also killed in a car accident. If you want to put a face
to the name I am the one in the yellow t-shirt on the pictures of the last
river trip. Robert Hardy, 1957-62 |
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From: Marcia Malia
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Subject: Tom Bird
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A propos the accidental
death of a teacher, the only one I can remember in my time at CleW was Tom
Bird, who was indeed killed driving his mini. The details which I remember differ slightly from those mentioned
already (these things tend to metamorphose to some extent with the passage
of time), in that my understanding
was that the accident involved a high-speed collision in some way with the
overhang of a large lorry. I was personally never taught
by Tom Bird, but I thought he taught History and English. He was reputedly very left wing and proud
of it (just the kind of guy who I would expect to have late-night discussions
in his flat). Friends of mine who
were taught by him found him an inspirational teacher and I well remember the
huge sense of shock throughout the school when he was killed. Whether it was 1960 or not, I would
doubt. I would have said it was earlier
than that. Is it possible that there
could have been two deaths? I certainly
can't remember anything around 1960 about a young geography teacher and a
bike. Hope this helps. Marcia Malia (nee Todd) |
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j Now you give the name, I’m sure it was Tom Bird I was describing in my response to
Brian’s message. The guy I have in
mind was certainly left-wing, and
History would go along with Current Affairs.
If that’s the incident we’re looking for then the date’s still in
doubt. But in a second email to me
Marcia has second thoughts. She
says: “Further
to my ‘Common Room’ message: The date
of Mr Bird's accident may well have been 1960 or even later - he is
identifiable on the school photograph from 1960. “Also,
I seem to recollect that his accident took place
during, possibly, the Easter holidays, or a half term week. I have an idea that it involved the M1
near Luton, and of course, the M1 didn't open
until 1960.” Are
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From: Brian Roe
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24/12/04 27/12/04 |
Subject: news of Isaac & Jess Stamper
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Isaac (or Ike) Stamper,
whom you acknowledge for your literary skills, is 87 and alive and well,
together with his wife Jess (married 62 years). We found your site on the
internet last evening when, as a very long shot, we made an enquiry with
reference to a respected and gifted Carlton-le-Willows teacher very sadly
killed in a road accident whilst cycling near the school, now many years ago.
Ike believes that this colleague might have taught Physics whereas Juliet
(Ike’s & Jess’s older daughter and also my wife of 31 years), thinks he
may have taught geography. Does anyone remember please and if so could you
post or send the name and subject? The staff photograph,
including Ike, was a wonderful find for us. Someone had telephoned Ike
this year to say that Haydn Riley had died this year. Ike & Jess knew him
well and they still met up until 2 or 3 years back. A number of examples of
Haydn’s craftsmanship are to be found amongst the family. Ike & Jess now live
near their other daughter, Lucia, in Ilkley in I
am sorry that we have little or no idea of how long ago it was that the
accident with the cycle occurred. Juliet feels she was likely to have been
quite young and so it would be 40 or even 50 years ago. I remember Ike saying
that it was an accident that should never have happened and that he blamed a
car driver for impatience at a road works involving temporary traffic
control. It is all the more poignant since when Ike was approximately 14
years old, his own 12 year-old brother William, just 18 months his junior and
of course his best friend at the time, was killed in a cycling accident in
front of him in Nottingham. This was apparently William’s fault in going out
of the end of a road in front of a bus. Inevitably this was very tragic for
Ike and his parents and it has stayed with Ike as a reminder of the
impermanence and lottery of life ever since. It
may not be known that Ike survived 2 major landings in Italy during WWII at
first Salerno & then Anzio. He was a sergeant-gunner in charge of a
25-pounder. He refused to apply for a commission on what could be described
as political grounds which I have long thought was a big loss to the British
Army effort of that time. I understand from every evidence received that Ike
was an exceptional teacher (as was Jess who took up the profession later in
life). Giving up a deputy-headship for his last year before retirement so
that he could go back to teaching says a lot. Juliet
& I took Ike back to Italy for the first time (& almost inevitably
the last) in 2001 with Jess who was flying at 83 for the first time in her
life. Ike’s only earlier experience of flying had been in the belly of a DC3
being evacuated to North Africa when hit by yellow jaundice during the war.
We all had a wonderful time and located the approximate point at which Ike
came over the beach at Salerno. We
are continuing to have an excellent Christmas and we wish you a very good
remaining holiday and Happy New Year. Sincere
good wishes Brian
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j I compiled Brian’s message
(with his permission) from two emails he sent to the Webmaster following his
and Ike’s visit to our site. Ike
added a message to me which I haven’t posted: thanks very much for both. I
hoped to be able to get a full answer to this from the school magazines I’m
holding. Unfortunately the magazine
did not list staff members (why ever not?) and I’m missing the one in which
any obituary would have appeared. But
it seems likely to me that the year was 1960 and the teacher in question was
one of three young teachers who joined the School a year before – I think we
were their first postings. But I can
only remember one name – a Mr. Woods – and he isn’t the one who suffered the
accident. I might not be right, though,
because the accident itself differs from Brian’s account. But
assuming I’m right for the moment,
the two whose names I can’t remember – a lady and a man – taught those
of us in the sixth form who wanted to try ‘A’ Level General Studies (a very
unusual option then). There was no
curriculum for GS – questions could be set on any topic at all. The lady was a very attractive French
teacher (I think) and the chap was almost certainly teaching Geography, though he taught us ‘Current
Affairs’. The two of them organised
evening discussion groups for anyone interested in one or another’s
flat. The discussions went on until
late in the evening, much to the
alarm of my parents but much to my delight:
for once we were ‘allowed’ to argue and say what we thought about
stuff. I did that in any
lesson, and notably Ike’s, who encouraged it disgracefully, but it normally made me seem tiresome. The
pair of them, along with Ike, Harry Makins and one or two others
including our first headmaster Stephen Marshall, gave us the training in philosophy every scholar needs but few
were offered in other schools and it’s one of the things that made Le Willows
special. But
sadly the chap was killed, as Brian
said, in a freak accident. But what I remember is that he was driving
a mini which ran into or ran into the path of a bus. Minis were known not for their crash
resistance, but their lack of
it. And the School was very
upset, as you can imagine, and so was I: in a short time he’d made a strong impression, and I was grateful to him. I went on to win a distinction in the ‘A’
level. Can
anyone else help? We need a name, a date and what kind of accident it really
was. If
you’d like to read some more about Ike’s career from his own pen you can
download the second issue of ‘Salix’,
our newsletter. Go to the
‘About CLeWS’ section and click on ‘Salix’.
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From: Bernard Barton-Ancliffe
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Subject: TODDY, MR ROBERTS AND ALL THAT
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have just discovered the site and found it very interesting. I had a very short career at Carlton Le
Willows after joining as a "First former" in 1962. I left to go to a boarding school in
Lancashire; a very bad decision as Le Willows was a much better school. Still, no doubt many of the teachers
thought it was a very good decision.
The only subjects in which I showed any promise were rugby, French and
woodwork. I
appreciated the excellent article by Mr Todd's daughter. Of course I remember Mr Todd very
well. Who wouldn't? I remember him telling us that his specialist
subject was French, but there was no doubting his passion for music. The fact that I still do not know what a
great stave is owes more to my inability to learn rather than to his teaching
ability. Sadly, I do not play any
musical instrument and cannot sing, but I still have a strong and eclectic
taste for music, kicked off no doubt by "Toddy". He did tell us that his daughter too was a
keen musician who once, when listening to a record being played in the Todd
household announced "It's flat!"
Apparently Mr Todd had a disc used for checking the speed of the
turntable, and when the machine was tested, it appeared that the turntable
was indeed playing slightly slowly and the sound was indeed flat. Having left Carlton Le Willows, I came
back there a year later to visit some old friends. Mr Todd recognised me and even allowed me to sit in his class
during a lesson. I
assume that David Roberts, scribe of several entries in the Common Room, is
the Mr Roberts who introduced me to rugby all those years ago. My first memories of Mr Roberts are from
the very first PE lesson. Having told
us all (boys) to get dressed in PT shorts, vests and pumps, he lined us all
up in the gymn. He then told those of
us who were wearing anything else to sit down. I sat down. He asked me
what else I was wearing, and when I replied that I had my underpants on,
several others sat down too. Good
move on his part. It left all of us
in no doubt who was boss. After that,
we knew exactly where the line was drawn and what was expected of us and we
got on fine. Having showed some
promise at rugby, I played for the first year alongside Jonathan Wellum and
Stephen Baird-Parker on the front row.
We had a short but mainly victorious season, and would have had a
hundred percent record had not the "Tech" scraped a 3 - 3 draw
against us. My next school did not
play rugby, and although I later became a referee at "Kick and
chase" as Mr Roberts called it, I have never lost my liking for
rugby. (It gives me no pleasure to
see the parlous state of the present Welsh game.) I hope he will forgive me fo that and I would be delighted to
meet up with him again. Well
there you have it; a few ramblings from an old boy. Having now found the site, I will keep a lookout for future
re-unions. I would certainly like to
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j Good to hear from you, Bernard.
Welcome to the Common Room. If
you’d like to attend future reunions,
would you consider joining the Society? Membership subscriptions provide up-front funding for the big
reunions so that we can book everything and open them to non-members
too, and they provide some subsidy as
well. Members get a regular
newsletter keeping them in touch and a Membership List with contact details
for all the other members. To try to
make sure we aren’t biassed as a Society towards the very oldest members
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From: David Roberts
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Subject: Haydn Riley
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you for the correction. Of course it is Riley, I noted it after I sent it.
Too much pressure on the keys. I have the address in Scotland should anyone
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From: Geoff Mann
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Subject: Haydn Riley
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Haydn Riley D.L.C. (Hons)
It was with particular sadness that I read the announcement of the recent passing of Haydn Riley, my woodwork master at le Willows between 1954 and 1958.
I had a lot of time for Haydn - I was always keen about woodwork but initially my ability was way behind my enthusiasm! Haydn must have spotted this and often went the extra mile to nurture me towards a decent level of competence, thankfully with some degree of success as not only did I get an "O" level in woodworking but he also asked me to demonstrate on the lathe during the official opening day of the school in front of numerous visitors, including Sir John Wolfenden; that did my confidence no harm at all !
I still have some of the furniture I made at school during this period including a dropped-leafed oak coffee table made from one of the trees felled in the grounds of the school to make way for the sports field.
It was years later before we met up again thanks to the '94 Reunion and him subsequently becoming a member of CLeWS. We corresponded most years after then and just last March, he sent me a delightful letter reminiscing about those early days of le Willows and how much affection he still felt, not only for his fellow teachers but also the pupils during that time.
A first class teacher and a true gentleman - I shall miss him.
Jeff Mann (1953-1958) |
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From: David Roberts
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Subject: Haydn Rilley
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I have heard that Haydn Rilley died last week at the age of 79.
He was a colleague of mine for 16 years but more importantly my friend. He was I believe one of the Grand Originals, with Harry Makins
Ike Stamper et al. He was to me the epitome of the word craftsman. The
underside of anything was finished to the same standard as the top.But above
all else he was a gentleman.In my own school days the place to mess about was
the wood work room, not so with Haydn his discipline was unobtrusive yet
firm, I never heard him raise his voice in anger. Past pupils may recall at
the annual prize giving the Headmaster would present the visiting dignitary
with a bowl "Made in the school workshop". He and I used to have a
laugh about that, as if it had been conjured up out of thin air. Or when he was having a crafty smoke in the store room and I
would walk in announcing in a loud voice " I think you'll find Mr.
Rilley in there Headmaster". He nearly set fire to his smock in his
haste to douse the cigarette. I have the wooden rugby ball that he made for me when I left the
school, the finish is so perfectly smooth, and it ever reminds me of a man I
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j Very sad news. He was one of my favourite masters
too: though I was hopeless at
woodwork, he was always tolerant and
courteous and tried very hard with me,
which isn’t always the case in any school. He also met my gold standard for any teacher – that he be
creative in his subject. He told my
parents he’d finally given up on me,
but after leaving school I persisted and did a bit better. That’s not always the case, either.
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the way, I believe the correct
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From: John Glenn
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Subject: WHAT A GOOD SCHOOL IT WAS!
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In May, three of the former boys from 5M (Vintage 1959), met up for the first time in forty-four
years. All of us (Glenn, Jillings and Metheringham), admitted that as far as
exam results were concerned, we were more often than not in the bottom half of the class. None the
less, subsequently all three of us have achieved a respectable amount of
success in our chosen professions. We now recognise, perhaps somewhat later
that we should, a lot of the credit for that must go to the excellent start
in life that the school gave us. So, a somewhat belated thank you to our Form
Master, Fred Lee, and the rest of the staff that taught us so many good
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j Fred Lee has been very supportive of our Society, so we made him an honorary Life member to say ‘thank you’. John, you came
to the last reunion, didn’t you? I wonder if you and your friends would
consider joining our Society too? And
look out for some more reunion events (priority for members) which we’ll be
announcing shortly, in August and
October. If there’s room for non-members too we’ll post the details on the
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From: Sue Dewsbury
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Subject: Mr Todd/Mr Hawkesworth
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From: Val Hunter
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Subject: Mr. Todd
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Memories of Mr Todd are many. The germ free environment in the
music room when he came with his little brown case liberally spraying TCP
everywhere. However many years later when as a midwife I was working with a
GP practice in Wollaton, I came across Mr Todd again. He came in the surgery to see the Doctor. We spoke briefly
before he was called in. The building was quite an old one with a beautiful oak front
door, complete with a big, wobbly brass door knob. As Mr Todd left to go through the door he took a small
screwdriver from his pocket, tightened the screws on the door knob, shouted
goodbye and left. This was for me a typical Mr Todd sort of thing to do, and
certainly put a smile on my face. Again whilst working at the same surgery I came across Miss
Scorer though sadly have no contact with her. Anyone know where she is now?
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From: Tony Williams
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Subject: Hi From TWILL
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Just a short hello from TWILL AKA Tony Williams 1971 - 76 or there abouts, probably the best
years CLW ever had.....! Apart from the fact that Bruce Petford was in occupation god
rest his soul?? Where is everybody. I have not met all the good guy's and gals
since Blotts about 1990 or somewher around that time. Hope you are all well even if I get no replies,,,,,,,,,,,,,Yeah
- Right !! Big Tone, Budgie, Fitkow, Nige G, Elaine S (Still doing the tax
thing), RobW, Tracie's, Costag, Beady, Waity, Val M, Ogel woman, Julie BJ and her blind
mate, loads more I could embarress ! Alas! Alas! I fear
the snowballs and bay city roller outfits are never to be
repeated..................!! Anyway, it was good for
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j TWILL
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means he can’t join our Society as it is presently constituted. He says he’s looking to see if Tech have a
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From: David Roberts
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Subject: Mr. Todd
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I felt I must give my reaction to having just found and read
Marcia's extraordinary and interesting account of her father Bill Todd.I
first met him as a new member of staff in 1961. To me, and the majority of the staff he was "Mr.Todd".
Apart for his delightful eccentricities, my overwhelming memory of him was
that he never ever said a heartless or cruel word about anyone. That if you
consider, it is a supremely difficult thing to do, especially as a
teacher.After all, at any staff social gathering, the norm was to (a)
"discuss" anyone who was not present, and (b) wait until anyone
there had left, and then
"discuss" them. The moral was, not to miss a staff "do"
or leave early. My mother referred to it as staff room cannibalism.Pupils
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From: David Roberts
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Subject: Rugby Dinner
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Just found a note about the Rugby Dinner of April 5th 1963,
which might amuse. 72 boys 10 staff and guests attended. Cost 3/- Mrs. Moran and 3 girls,
(Judy, Jean, and Chris) did the cooking of 20lbs sausage, 12lbs peas, 100lbs
potatoes, 16pts milk, 1 tin coffee, 4lbs sugar, 4 loaves, all for a cost of £9- 3- 4.That was 9
pounds 3 shillings and 4 pence.(cost today?) Mrs Moran then lists the various portions e.g 5 portions of
sausages in 1lb (15 links to the lb). This was the second Rugby dinner,the first was in 1962, and as
I'm sure it will be remembered, that they were then fixed as an annual event. As an aside;about the girls who volunteered to make the
teas, after 1stXV games. I once was foolish enough to ask one of the girls if
she would like to have a break from doing them. I was left in no doubt that
that was a very stupid suggestion. I never interfered again.There was
obviously considerable kudos or some other reason attached to that
chore. I thought you might like to know. David
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j Phew! I thought there was no-one left out there
- thanks for this, David. So who did the teas for Girls Hockey? I had a good line in tea and bannocks to offer, and a badge to prove it, had they asked. Sexism, I reckon. |
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From:
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Subject: Headmasters (re 016)
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Greetings to one ans all.
If Mr Draycott was there until 1967 then where does Mr Dowman fit in? I
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j Sadly, Leonard Draycott, still headmaster of le Willows,
died in 1967 following a heart attack, as we note elsewhere on the site (see
‘Setting the Scene’). The School’s Remembrance
Service for him was held at All Hallows church on 3rd. March in that
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From:
David Roberts
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Subject: New Meesage 007
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I thought perhaps someone else would have commented on Christine
Henderson's "New Message 007" posted 1-8-03 by now. Her memory
seems to have played a trick or two, at even a comparatively young age! For Mr. Riddle read Riddles, he came as Deputy Head when Mr.
Bates left, who had been the previous
Deputy Head. Mr. Draycott was
Head Master from 1958 to 1967. For Miss Sykes read Miss Squire who was Senior Mistress.Mr.
Langton was Head of R.E, and I don't recall him teaching History. There was a
Mr. Sam Williams on the staff at one time, he didn't stay very long, in fact
I believe he had left before 1964.He's not on the June 1964 school photo. In
any event he certainly was not Welsh!! There was a Mr. David Williams who
taught woodwork at the Tech. about that time.(There was a Mr. Lloyd and
myself on the staff representing the Celtic nation) Perhaps it's the air in Little Rock, it affects the memory:-) By the way what a splendid re-union! David Roberts |
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j Maybe it’s taken so long for anyone to comment on
Christine’s note because everyone thought someone else would comment. Or maybe David thought he couldn’t join in
because he was staff, not a
student. But this website’s for everyone, and the more everyone joins in, the better it’ll get. So keep the comments coming, please. Even if your memory isn’t perfect. Now me, I left before 1964, so that’s why I thought I didn’t remember
“Miss Sykes”. Miss Squire, though,
that’s quite different. She
was a brilliant teacher: I got only a
middling ‘O’ level in French, so I’m
not a brilliant linguist, but for the
rest of my life I’ve been able to speak and read it well enough to impress
the French themselves – French businessmen especially, who don’t expect it from an Englishman at
all. I have Marguerite Squire to
thank for that, and at the first
reunion I was finally able to. |
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From:
Irene Morley
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Subject: Reunion Photo Gallery
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The photo that Val took and didn't know who the people were!!! We're start year 1961 and from L - R it's Keith Turner, Alison Brothwell (nee Morley), Kathleen Harley (nee Hind), Sandra Shaw, Irene Morley (nee Moss) and Sandie Hall. Thoroughly enjoyed the reunion, that's the third one I've been to. Pity that not too many of my year made the effort and it wasn't through lack of trying on my part to drum up support. Strange isn't it that so many folk put themselves onto Friends Reunited and yet can't be bothered to go and meet old friends at an organised event. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next get-together. Best wishes, Irene Morley (Moss) |
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glad you enjoyed it. I’ve posted your
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From:
John Massey
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Subject: Colin Pykett CleW 1957-64
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Is anyone in touch with Colin? I last was in 1984 when the school put out a paper "Where are they now". He was living in Dorset at the time at Upwey, and working for the MoD. I have just moved down to the West Country myself, but know he's not there any more. Anyone else know? John Massey |
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From:
Michael Anthony
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Subject: Reunion
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Just a few words now to say thank you to all who were involved in arranging the reunion last Saturday. Sorry I had to leave early, but I had an unavoidable "double booking". It was good to meet so many friends from those halcyon days, especially those from our erstwhile music community. Who knows what the future may hold? Many thanks again, and best wishes to all. Here's to the next time.
Michael Anthony (1957 - 64) |
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From:
Catherine Dixon
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Subject: Reunion
2003 September
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I am comng to the reunion, but my start year has not been
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Elizabeth. I’ve now corrected
the entry. Our membership records show a
‘Catherine Dixon’, starting in
1964, but you were recorded as
‘Elizabeth Dixon’, no start year, when you bought your ticket. So I didn’t realise you were both the same
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From:
David Roberts
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Subject: Re: Dates (010)
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David Roberts
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Subject: Dates
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arrived, in fact I left Easter 1977. Just found the web site, very good idea.See you September. David Roberts |
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are start dates, not
end-dates. We know Friends Reunited
do it the other way about, but we
like to be different. What was it like at CLW over
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From:
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Subject: Shirley Brocklebank
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From:
David Hope
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Subject: Led Zeppelin
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April 6th 1969 or March 21st 1971! Were you there? Did you see Led Zeppelin live at The Boat Club in Nottingham? If so, I would like to hear from You! I am currently researching a book on the live performances of
Led Zeppelin and I am collecting people's reviews (however vague!) and memorabilia for any of their
shows. Please contact me: David Hope Email: menander321@yahoo.com Tel: 07792737109 |
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From:
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Subject: New Message
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I was a pupil from 1964 until 1969. Mr. Riddle was the
headmaster, Miss Sykes (?)was the headmistress. Mr Todd taught
music. Mr. Bowles taught physics in the "Bowl Hole" (the
physics lab). I also remember Miss Rochester (chemistry), Mr. Langton
(history), Mr. Williams, the Welsh hunk that taught something! Does any
remember these teachers. My name was Christine Massey. I'm
Christine Henderson now and an RN at Arkansas Children's Hospital in Little
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j Our first global message!
Thanks, Christine. You joined the school only four years
after I left, but I didn’t know any
of your teachers – except ‘Toddy’. He
was a living legend for everybody,
through the whole Grammar School period. |
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From:
Mike Bucklow
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Subject: Website & Reunion
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Looking forward to the reunion, I was beginning
to panic as our tickets were only 29 and 30, but I've been drumming up some
interest from those I am still in contact with, albeit only sporadically.
It's not "50th" that reminds me I'm not a teenager any more, it's
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j Alison and Mike are referring to John Hurst’s posting
below (002). You guys can send us photos, if you will, and we’ll post them on the site. And thanks for your efforts to drum up support for the
Reunion. I wondered how long it would be
before the subject of fonts came up.
What do people think? I’ve
reproduced Alison & Mike’s missive in Times New Roman, as they suggested, whereas the other postings here are in our
standard Lucida Sans, so you can
(maybe) judge. Remember, though,
that what you see isn’t necessarily what we sent. If someone’s system doesn’t have the font
specified, their browser will
substitute something else – we can’t control that without macho
programming. So before you
judge, make sure you’re seeing Times
above and Lucida Sans below. Even
with the right font, browsers and
monitors vary in how they display it.
I did try Times when we were setting up the site, and on a couple of browsers tested it
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From:
Sue Collison
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Subject: Keith Protheroe (001)
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Keith,
Was it Jeannie Armfield and Pat Ashmore (both as was) with whom you wanted to be in touch?
If it was, I'm sorry to tell you that Pat, very sadly passed away some 18 years ago.
Regards,
Sue Collison (nee Howard) |
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From:
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Subject: Missing Persons
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I was a pupil between 1963 and 1970 and would love to get
back in touch with Gerry Brown of the same era. I last saw her at her wedding
in October 1974 when she became Gerry Kinchingham. Also from the same times, I have lost touch with Shirly Brocklebank (known as "Sid") and would like to reconnect. Sue Dewsbury (Cant as was) |
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From:
David Lee
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Subject: Peter (Wally) Walton
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Its a
very long shot and I have had no success in past enquires but I would love to
meet up again with my old friend 'Wally'. I last saw him during his training
as a nurse at the old Balderton (Newark) hospital circa 1960 !!! I cannot
believe that the 50th anniversary of the school's opening is so close - I
really must be getting old, I do feel it some days. David Lee
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j Anyone know of Wally?
If you have contact details, we’ll
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From:
John Hurst
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07/07/03 |
Subject: new message for common room
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Nice to find a site for old school!!
Name is JOHN HURST( Nickname- GINGER ) circa 1956-1960? so long ago cant remember. Sporty type in those days, long time " friend " of Christine Sarah Marshall.
Anyone out there remember me? Would be great to hear from: Sarah Marshall John Williamson -Willy Tony Lawler or anyone who may know their whereabouts
Look forward to hearing
regards
John ( email john444@blueyonder.co.uk ) |
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j Thanks, John. We don’t know of any of the people you
mention, unless Christine is related
to the first Headmaster. If you find
them, why don’t you all come to the reunion in September? John included his email address in his
message, so you can respond to him
directly or better, post a message here as well. |
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From:
Keith Prothero
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Subject:
school contacts
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Hi I was a pupil at CLWGS from 1957-60 and particularly are trying to contact friends from that era. Does anyone know the contact details for Richard Clay, Jane Armfield or Judy Ashmore? cheers and congratulations onthe quality of the new site. |
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j Our first message!
Can you help? If you can, send an email to commonroom. We won’t post his address on this
board, but we’ll forward any details
you send to Keith. |
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