Is it EVER okay to purchase real estate investments at full price?!?

15 09 2009

Lee’s Notes: Good post from Vena Jones-Cox..

Is it Every OK to Pay Full Price for Real Estate?
Here’s an idea that’s gone out of fashion: building humongous wealth in real estate is a long-term process.

I know, I know…wholesaling, retailing, buying and selling creatively-they all hold the promise of quick cash. That’s why sales of courses and bootcamps on these topics will continue to outstrip those of courses on long-term buy-and-hold strategies by a margin of 100 to 1.

But let’s face it, not everyone is cut out to do the wheeling and dealing that these strategies require. Each and every one of them requires the investor to sift through dozens of potential leads to find the one deal where the seller is desperate enough to take 70 cents on the dollar for a quick sale, or is open to creative finance deals that are way outside of the average American’s frame of reference and comfort zone. In other words, the investor has to be both willing and able to negotiate a price and/or terms that make the deal work for him-and find a seller for whom the terms work as well.

Furthermore, depending on the strategy, the investor (let’s just call him “you” from now on) has to have the time (and in some cases, skills) to make the deal make money after the purchase. In the case of a retail deal, the low purchase price does not automatically equal a high profit-cost overruns, holding expenses, poor neighborhood selection, and unexpected repairs can quickly eat up any potential gain. In many creative buy/sell deals, as little as one month a year in vacancy can kill the profits for the entire year.

Now, don’t get me wrong-I am a big fan of (and practitioner of!) these short and medium-term deals. Like most full-time investors, I depend on them to take care of immediate cash needs, build money for long-term holds, and, frankly, to keep food on the table. But the source of my wealth-and that of every other real estate investor in the country-is the tax breaks, appreciation, and mortgage pay-down that comes from owning rental properties.

And what’s more, quick-turn deals just don’t fit into everyone’s lifestyle. Many people are just downright uncomfortable with the negotiation factor; others are unwilling or unable to commit the time it takes to deal with dozens of sellers for each property they buy; still others are in a tax situation that makes any type of short-term capital gain a major tax burden. And a mega-profitable quick-turn business requires a lot of volume-1,2, or even 10 deals a year aren’t going to make anyone a millionaire, especially since the profits are ultimately taken out in cash which, let’s face it, we tend to spend rather than grow into more profits. And doing more than 10 deals a year is difficult for anyone who plans to keep their “day job” for whatever reason.

So what if there was a way to become a millionaire in real estate without hard-ball negotiation, without a full-time commitment, and without making dozens of offers for each deal you buy? What if, in short, you want to be a completely hands-off, passive real estate investor?

There is-but in order to do it, you have to be willing to go against all of the training you have that says that smart investors don’t pay full price for properties. Oh, and you may have to consider investing outside of your own geographical region. Wanna hear about it anyway? Here goes.

When and Where to Consider Paying Full Price

First, some background for readers who live on certain parts of the east and west coast, Arizona, and Florida.

In most of the United States, it’s possible to purchase single and multi-family rental properties in decent areas for full price, pay 20% down or less, and still have positive cash flow at current interest rates.

This rule primarily applies to properties with an after-repaired value of 120% or less of the median house price in the area, and becomes MORE true as you move DOWN the scale. For instance, in Cincinnati, the median house price is around $125,000; a home with an ARV of $170,000 will rent for about $1400 a month and have positive cash flow if the mortgage is 80% of value, or $136,000

On the other hand, a home with an ARV of $70,000-which will be in an almost all-rental neighborhood-will rent for about $800 and will have a cash flow of $200 or so with $56,000 mortgage at 6 %.

A $50,000 property-which will be a high-demand rental, but almost certainly in a “border zone”, will rent for $700 a month and have a $300+ positive cash flow if mortgaged at 80% of value.

The trade-off, of course, is that the $170,000 will appreciate a LOT more and have a LOT more tax benefits than the $50,000. And needless to say, there are factors other than the mortgage payment that must be considered; in cities with very high property taxes or additional fees for garbage collection or landlord licensing, the numbers clearly change. But on the whole, here in flyover country, it’s possible to break even-or even make money-paying full price for a property and financing it conventionally.

So what’s so exciting about breaking even?

Well, not much-IF your goal is to live off the cash flow from the property today. But remember, for the vast majority of people looking at investment real estate, cash flow now is not as important as cash flow later, wealth-building, and, most importantly, ease.

Even full time investors like me aren’t generally looking to their rental properties for immediate income; instead, I’m looking at my rentals as a retirement fund that have no impact on my income right now, but have a major impact on my TAX situation right now. My income-the putting-the-food-on-the-table money-comes from my short term, highly taxable wholesale and lease/option deals. My wealth-the retiring-young-and-traveling-the-world money-comes from rentals. And in the meantime, I want to be able to focus my time and energy on my high-profit, quick-cash strategies, and have someone else worry about filling and managing my rental homes.

So in order to evaluate the REAL benefits of paying full price (or close to full price) for we have to look at the long-term impact of owning the property. And this means evaluating the tax implications (which affect your income immediately) and the growth implications (which affect your future) of owning rentals.

The Tax Benefits. The IRS allows owners of single family investment properties to “depreciate” the property over time. In other words, for tax purposes, the home is treated as if it were “wearing out” and decreasing in value each year, instead of growing in value.

Single family homes are depreciated over 27 1/2 years, and a conservative accountant will tell you to set a “basis” on your property of 80% of your purchase price. The resulting number is then deducted from your net income from the property. And if THAT number is a negative number-which it almost always is in the first 5 years you own the property-that “loss” can flow over and shield your ordinary income, as well.

A paper loss of $1,000 a year equates to a tax savings of $150 in a 15% tax bracket, $300 in a 30% tax bracket, and so on. Although the tax breaks are something most people think of only on April 15th, they are a real, quantifiable addition to your yearly income, and must be taken into account when looking at the overall profit from the property.

Long-term appreciation. Another benefit of owning properties for the long haul is the growth of value of the property over time. Although the appreciation in the last 3 years has been NEGATIVE, all this means is that by paying full price, you’re buying at or close to the bottom of the market, and are positioned to get the appreciation that will be driven by the recovery of house prices.

If you use 3% as an extremely conservative estimate of yearly appreciation, over the next 5 years, a house worth $150,000 today will be worth $168,000 in 5 years-an untaxable, unspendable, but very real profit of $18,000.

Equity Paydown. At the same time that the property is increasing in value, the loan amount is decreasing thanks to the efforts of the tenants to pay it off for me. As you know if you’ve ever looked at the amortization schedule of a 30 year loan, this takes place slowly at first and accelerates as time goes by.

Nonetheless, in our example of the $150,000 bought with 20% down at 6% interest, the tenant pays off $1,473 of my loan in the first year-another real, untaxable profit center. Of course, this number gets bigger each year as principal payoff accelerates, but even in the very first year, it affects your overall return.

So, sometimes, for some people, in some situations, paying full price for investment real estate is a smart move. But before you run out and do this, let’s talk about what it takes to make it work in the real world. No matter what your financial situation, do NOT contemplate this strategy unless:

The property is fully renovated when you buy it. Obviously, it doesn’t make sense to purchase a home for full retail price if it needs work to bring it up to full retail value. But it also doesn’t make sense to pay full retail less the actual rehab costs for properties that need repairs. The whole attraction of this technique is that it is relatively hands-off; if you’re going to do work to a property, you can and should be paid for the time, money, and energy you put into repairing it. And since the idea is that you’ll be paying close to full price anyway, it just makes sense to buy something that won’t need a roof, an electrical update, plumbing, etc. in the near future.

The property has at least break-even cash flow, NOT including the effects of appreciation, tax savings, and equity paydown. The only time it makes sense to buy rental properties that have significant negative cash flow is when the same property has very large appreciation potential-and expecting a property to appreciate 10-20% a year in today’s slowing market is speculation at its worst.

Incidentally, if you’ve never owned rental property, you may not be aware that “break even” cash flow, in the real world, means negative cash flow in some years and positive cash flow in other years, evening itself out over the long term. If you live in a market where it’s impossible to buy a decent house in a decent area with break even cash flow, you may have to consider buying a package of properties in another region of the country and having them managed to make this work for you. Remember, the idea here is long-term growth with minimal hassle, NOT to get rich in 5 years from high appreciation, and NOT to spend your own money “feeding” your rentals year after year after year.

You’re qualified for the financing that makes this work. In theory, when you buy a property that breaks even in year 1, it should be cash flowing by year 5 and cash flowing strongly by year 10 due to rent increases.

However, this scenario really only works with a fixed-rate, low interest loan. It’s a fact of life that our mortgage interest rates will be increasing in the foreseeable future, and it’s also the case the rent increases normally lag interest rate increases.

If you can’t put 20% down, or can’t qualify for a low fixed-rate 30 year loan, it just flat won’t work.

You can leave your money invested in the property. Since this entire scenario is based on long-term growth and mortgage paydown, it’s crucial that you have the ability MAKE a downpayment, and then LEAVE it in the property (I know, I know, there are gurus all over the U.S. who would be rolling over in their graves right now, were they dead). But if you refinance the property at any point to pull out cash, you’ll not only decrease your cash flow a that point in time, you’ll also set yourself back years in terms of the mortgage paydown. Investing this way is like buying stock-you should be in it for the long haul, or not at all.

You are absolutely certain that the property will be well-managed. The success of this strategy-both long-term and short-term-hinges on good management. Whether you plan to self-manage or hire a property manager, your razor-thin cash flow margins depend on keeping the property rented, keeping the tenants happy, and collecting every dime you’re owed.

The 20% expense allowance in the examples assumes that you DON’T put a tenant in your property that’s going to do major damage to your property, and that you DON’T lose out on months of rent each year through vacancy, non-collection of rent, or lengthy rehab periods between tenants. If you can’t run your rental business like a true business, hire a good, competent property manager who will.

A note: if you’re going to hire a manager, talk to your tax professional first to make sure you won’t be subject to passive loss limitations in your tax write-offs.

Buying rentals at full price certainly doesn’t give you the “rush” that some of the other strategies available in real estate do. But real estate is such an important part of every financial portfolio that if you aren’t ready or aren’t able to do what it takes to wheel and deal in the real estate world, it’s sure better than doing nothing at all. For the right people in the right situations, it’s the obvious alternative to waiting to start a real estate career.





Finding Lease Options in Realtor Listings! – Wendy Patton

6 07 2009

Wendy Patton talks more about Buying and Selling Real Estate on Lease Options in Indy and elsewhere.  She isn’t trying to sell you guru abilities, she is actually teaching you.

She speaks about talking with Realtors in Indianapolis and elsewhere. How to qualify Realtor listings and educate Realtors about creative selling techniques in Indianapolis and elsewhere.

Over 35 minutes of class time boot legged(not really) from Wendy Pattons’ Buying and Selling Real Estate Boot Camp… People paid thousands of dollars for this bootcamp, and you are getting a taste of it for free!

If you are looking to invest in real estate in Indianapolis or elsewhere, this is some great info!





Time management and the Indianapolis real estate investor!

24 06 2009

Lee’s notes: Jon and I were talking the other day about Pareto’s 80/20 rule, and motivation etc.. Not sure if that was his motivation for this post, but it’s all good….

Jon Zorrer takes a Cuzz, and talks about time, and how to manage it. Talks about Greg Clement from realeflow.com, and Jack Walker who are creators of the Smart Internet Marketing Solution System(SIMS). Talks about finding 40 new buyers a week with little to no effort. All the deals you can handle while buying, selling, and investing in homes in Indianapolis, or wherever.

Three types of days: focus days, buffer days, and freetime days. Focus days are where you concentrate on the 20% of things that produce revenue(Pareto Principle).  Buffer days are where you catch up, and do the 80% things that need to get done, but don’t necessarily produce revenue. Freetime days are where you do your best to complete no work whatsoever. Basically you take 24 hours to rejuvenate, rest, and regenerate.

Full time investors should be using a schedule of: Mondays are focus days. Tuesday is a buffer day. Wednesday and Thursday are focus days. Friday is a buffer day. Saturday and Sunday are freetime days(try to avoid work at all costs).





Thinking about having a first child?

9 06 2009

Lee’s notes: We have 3 year old, but I saw this, and wow is it right on! Especially #2…

Preparation for parenthood is not just a matter of reading books and decorating the nursery. Here are 12 simple tests for expectant parents to take to prepare themselves for the real-life experience of being a mother or father.

1. Women: to prepare for maternity, put on a maternity shift and stick a 30 pound sack of potatoes down the front. Leave it there for 9 months. After 9 months, take out 10% of the potatoes.

Men: to prepare for paternity, go to the local pharmacy, tip the contents of your wallet on the counter, and tell the pharmacist to help himself. Then go to the supermarket. Arrange to have your salary paid directly to their home office. Go home. Pick up the paper. Read it for the last time.

2. Before you finally go ahead and have children, find a couple who are already parents and berate them about their methods of discipline, lack of patience, appallingly low tolerance levels, and how they have allowed their children to run amok. Suggest ways in which they might improve their child’s sleeping habits, toilet training, table manners and overall behavior. Enjoy it – it’ll be the last time in your life that you will have all the answers.

3. To discover how the nights will feel, walk around the living room from 5pm to 10 pm carrying a wet bag weighing approximately 8-12 pounds. At 10 pm put the bag down, set the alarm for midnight, and go to sleep. Get up at 12 and walk around the living room again, with the bag, until 1am. Set the alarm for 3am. As you can’t get back to sleep, get up at 2am and make a drink. Go to bed at 2.45 am. Get up again at 3am when the alarm goes off. Sing songs in the dark until 4 am. Set the alarm for 5am. Get up. Make breakfast. Keep this up for 5 years. Look cheerful.

4. Can you stand the mess children make? To find out, smear peanut butter onto the sofa and jam onto the curtains. Hide a fish stick behind the stereo and leave it there all summer. Stick your fingers in the flowerpots then rub them on the clean walls. Cover the stains with crayons. How does that look?

5. Dressing small children is not as easy as it seems. First buy an octopus and a string bag. Attempt to put the octopus into the string bag so that none of the arms hang out. Time allowed for this – all morning.

6. Take an egg carton. Using a pair of scissors and a pot of paint turn it into an alligator. Now take a toilet tube. Using only scotch tape and a piece of foil, turn it into a Christmas ornament. Last, take a milk jug, a ping pong ball, and an empty packet of Coco Puffs and make an exact replica of the Eiffel Tower. Congratulations. You have just qualified for a place on the playgroup committee.

7. Forget the Miata and buy a Taurus. And don’t think you can leave it out in the driveway spotless and shining. Family cars don’t look like that. Buy a chocolate ice cream bar and put it in the glove compartment. Leave it there. Get a quarter. Stick it in the cassette player. Take a family-size packet of chocolate cookies. Mash them down the back seats. Run a garden rake along both sides of the car. There. Perfect.

8. Get ready to go out. Wait outside the toilet for half an hour. Go out the front door. Come in again. Go out. Come back in. Go out again. Walk down the front path. Walk back up it. Walk down it again. Walk very slowly down the road for 5 minutes. Stop to inspect minutely every cigarette butt, piece of used chewing gum, dirty tissue and dead insect along the way. Retrace your steps. Scream that you’ve had as much as you can stand, until the neighbors come out and stare at you. Give up and go back into the house. You are now just about ready to try taking a small child for a walk.

9. Always repeat everything you say at least five times.

10. Go to your local supermarket. Take with you the nearest thing you can find to a pre-school child – a fully grown goat is excellent. If you intend to have more than one child, take more than one goat. Buy your week’s groceries without letting the goats out of your sight. Pay for everything the goats eat or destroy. Until you can easily accomplish this do not even contemplate having children.

11. Hollow out a melon. Make a small hole in the side. Suspend it from the ceiling and swing it from side to side. Now get a bowl of soggy cereal and attempt to spoon it into the swaying melon by pretending to be an airplane. Continue until half the cereal is gone. Tip the rest into your lap, making sure that a lot of it falls on the floor. You are now ready to feed a 12-month old baby.

12. Learn the names of every character from The Wiggles, Dora the Explorer, and Teletubbies. When you find yourself singing “Backpack” at work, you finally qualify as a parent.





Wendy Patton Speaks About Lease Options, Contract for deed(land contract), and marketing for buyers and sellers!

8 06 2009

Great interview with Wendy Patton talking about lease options, land contracts(contract for deed). Lots of creative ways to purchase and sell real estate in Indianapolis with little to no money down. Also talking about different ways to market for buyers and sellers.

Wendy Patton started out investing in real estate in 1985. She started out using credit cards, and quickly learned that wasn’t the way to go. She has since published 4 major books about real estate investing, and understands how to buy and sell property in Indy with no money down.





Urgent Politcal Action Needed By All Real Estate Entrepreneurs To Defend Private Property Rights! HR 1728

6 06 2009

Thank you to Dyches Boddiford, Elmer Diaz and National REIA for sounding the alarm and organizing vitally-needed action on this issue . . .

Pete Fortunato recently brought this Bill to my attention.

It has already passed the House of Representations and has been sent to the Senate. If it passes in its current form, it will restrict owner financing to once every 36 months (HR 1728 Sec 101(3)(E)). While this may not be much of a problem when we get owner financing from sellers, it severely restricts our ability to sell with owner financing.

Though the bill mainly deals with amendments to Truth-in-Lending for mortgage brokers and banks, this one section could reap havoc. This could limit not only your sales where you take back a mortgage, but _your lease-options and land contracts as well_.

Here’s the latest version of the Bill: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1728

All owner carryback financing should be exempted from this bill. As one commentator noted, if this is left as is, it is a taking of private property rights. We can wait for someone else to fight it, but as for me, I am contacting my Senators today to let him know what I think. I suggest you do the same.

You can find and contact your Senators here: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Keep it short and to the point, but let them know your thoughts! Pass this along to your investor friends.

Dyches Boddiford





Can you use the 8k First Time home buyer tax credit as downpayment?

4 06 2009

Lee’s notes: There is some new policies coming out that state you may be able to use the 8k first time home buyer tax credit as part of your downpayment on a new house.. Once again a first time home buyer is classified as someone who has not owned a home in 3 years, or ever. Found this article, and figured I would share.

FHA loans with no money down? You have to admit that HUD has an interesting idea.

On May 11th HUD posted an official notice for lenders saying that first-time borrowers could apply their $8,000 tax credit toward downpayments. This sounds good at first, but if you look closely at the policy it raises some complex questions.

HUD posted the May 11th notice and then withdrew it. However, everything online remains online eternally, so you can readily read what HUD had to say in Mortgage Letter 2009-15 because it’s been re-posted on a non-HUD site.

Given the current surplus of homes for sale — especially in California, Arizona, Nevada and Florida — any effort which is likely to reduce our bloated housing inventories should be welcomed. But while the thinking here is good, the complications are considerable.

New Policy

Now HUD is back with a revamped tax credit policy and a new 2009-15 mortgagee letter. What the policy says is very different from the original announcement. As HUD explains:

____”Today’s announcement details FHA’s rules allowing state Housing Finance Agencies and certain non-profits to ‘monetize” up to the full amount of the tax credit (depending on the amount of the mortgage) so that borrowers can immediately apply the funds toward their down payments.”

That sure sounds like you can use the $8,000 tax credit toward a downpayment. However, the very same release also says:

___”Current law does not permit approved lenders to monetize the tax credit to meet the required 3.5 percent minimum down payment, but, under the terms of today’s announcement, lenders can now monetize the tax credit for use as additional down payment, or for other closing costs, which can help achieve a lower interest rate.”

Translation: You still need 3.5 percent down from savings or from a gift if your financing comes from a commercial lender, but if the financing comes from a state housing agency or a non-profit then you can apply the tax credit toward a downpayment.

I have great sympathy for what HUD. They get big credit for trying to help home sellers by making the loan process for buyers more attractive. There is an essential decency to this effort. That said, the idea of purchasers buying with no money down is a part of what got us into the mortgage meltdown in the first place — and that’s not comforting.

For specifics, please speak with lenders and state housing organizations.

The complete news release is below:

DONOVAN ANNOUNCES RECOVERY ACT’S HOMEBUYER TAX CREDIT CAN IMMEDIATELY HELP THOUSANDS OF FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS TO BUY A HOME

FHA plan will stimulate new home sales and help stabilize housing market.

WASHINGTON – Speaking to the National Association of Home Builders Spring Board of Directors Meeting, U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan today announced that the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) will allow homebuyers to apply the Obama Administration’s new $8,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit toward the purchase costs of a FHA-insured home. Donovan said that today’s action will help stabilize the nation’s housing market by stimulating home sales across the country.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 offers homebuyers a tax credit of up to $8,000 for purchasing their first home. Families can only access this credit after filing their tax returns with the IRS. Today’s announcement details FHA’s rules allowing state Housing Finance Agencies and certain non-profits to ‘monetize” up to the full amount of the tax credit (depending on the amount of the mortgage) so that borrowers can immediately apply the funds toward their down payments. Home buyers using FHA-approved lenders can apply the tax credit to their down payment in excess of 3.5 percent of appraised value or their closing costs, which can help achieve a lower interest rate. To read the FHA’s new mortgagee letter, visit HUD’s website.

“We believe this is a real win for everyone,” said Donovan. “Today, the Obama Administration is taking another important step toward accelerating the recovery of the nation’s housing market. Families will now be able to apply their anticipated tax credit toward their home purchase right away. At the same time we are putting safeguards in place to ensure that consumers will be protected from unscrupulous lenders. What we’re doing today will not only help these families to purchase their first home but will present an enormous benefit for communities struggling to deal with an oversupply of housing.”

Currently, borrowers applying for an FHA-insured mortgage are required to make a minimum 3.5 percent downpayment on the purchase of their home. Current law does not permit approved lenders to monetize the tax credit to meet the required 3.5 percent minimum down payment, but, under the terms of today’s announcement, lenders can now monetize the tax credit for use as additional down payment, or for other closing costs, which can help achieve a lower interest rate. Buyers financing through state Housing Finance Agencies and certain non-profits will be able to use the tax credit for their downpayments via secondary financing provided by the HFA or non-profit. In addition to the borrower’s own cash investment, FHA allows parents, employers and other governmental entities to contribute towards the downpayment. Today’s action permits the first-time homebuyer’s anticipated tax credit under the Recovery Act to be applied toward the family’s home purchase right away. Unlike seller-funded down-payment assistance, which was a vehicle for abuse, this program will allow homebuyers to shop for the best home price and services using their anticipated tax credit.

According to estimates by the National Association of Home Builders, the Administration’s homebuyer tax credit will stimulate 160,000 home sales across the nation – 101,000 of which will be first-time buyers who will receive the credit. Another 59,000 existing homeowners will be able to buy another home because a first-time buyer purchased their home. Given FHA’s current market share, it’s estimated that thousands of families will be able to purchase a home by allowing the anticipated tax credit to be applied toward their purchase together with an FHA-insured mortgage.

Homebuyers should beware of mortgage scams and carefully compare benefits and costs when seeking out tax credit monetization services. Programs will vary from organization to organization and borrowers should consider whether the services make sense for them, as well as what company offers the most suitable and affordable option.

For every FHA borrower who is assisted through the tax credit program, FHA will collect the name and employer identification number of the organization providing the service as well as associated fees and charges. FHA will use this information to track the business closely and will refer any questionable practices to the appropriate regulatory agencies, as necessary.





How to make money and or buy properties at the Indiana real estate tax sales!

3 06 2009

Lee’s Notes: This is another interview from Jon Zorer with Michael Keefe, a real estate investor near atlanta GA who specializes in buying and or investing in real estate via buying tax deeds or liens at real estate tax sales. 

Would you like to make high interest return or buy a property for pennies on the dollar? Michael Keefe talks about buying homes at tax sales. Each state varies on their returns, and timelines involved, but this is another highly creative way to get great returns on a real estate investment in Indianapolis or wherever.

The general principle is that you purchase the property at a tax sale. The owner has a certain amount of time to buy-back the property(1 year generally) with interest of around 10-25%. During this redemption period, you(as the investor) can’t really do anything with the property(put a tarp over a leaky roof maybe, but no renovations are recommended). If the owner doesn’t redeem, then you can file the appropriate paperwork(s) to get the deed in your(or your companies) name, and then that home in Indianapolis is all yours! This all depends on your local state laws regarding tax liens/deeds, but you get the picture. Definitely want to check with your local real estate attorney or another real estate investor to find out all the bonuses and pitfalls, but overall a great way to put your money to work for you!






How to make 2 million in commercial real estate investing in Indiana

2 06 2009

Lee’s Notes: I am working with one of the top dog up and coming real estate investors out of New Jersey, and he and I are collaborating on some webinars etc. So I wanted to share some of his past video interviews with some of the big names in Real Estate Investing.

Would you like to make half million, million, or two million dollars in commercial real estate investing in Indianapolis or elsewhere? Now is definitely the time to buy real estate.

Peter Conti speaks about commercial real estate investing. Peter also offers 7 free videos at his website FreeCommercialMentor.com. Peter talks about gaining rapport with sellers.

Commercial Real Estate Investing For Dummies” is Peters’ new book. Check it out at amazon.com or your local book store!

Whether you are looking to buy commerical real estate in Indy or elsewhere, it is a GREAT time to buy! Get in on the ground floor and get your life in order!





How to gain respect from a high end swing set manufacturer!

26 05 2009

Lee’s Notes: My family is pretty artsy.. We build a lot of things, and my son doesnt thing there is a single thing he can break, that I can’t fix… Well, except for when Daddy sat on his Avalanche toy truck and snapped the wheels off, but I digress…

We have been looking for a playset for our son, and came upon Cedarworks. They have some brilliant stuff, and we have been in awe of their equipment since last year when we ordered one of their catalogues. Well fast forward a year, and my father who is very handy decided to take one of their Rascal Ramps for inspiration and built a ramp for one of his clients.. Came out rather well, and Cedarworks liked it as well!

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, consider us very flattered. We recently received an email from Dale Smith of Indy, Indiana (“a corn field with a race track in the middle” according to Dale) in which he describes an unusual project he had just completed. It seems that the assistant minister of his church needed some way for his son to access the loft area of his bedroom, and asked Dale whether he could help.



As Dale then describes, “I found your company on line, and requested a catalog.  When it arrived I was thrilled to see all the wonderful units you offer.  I am a bit artsy, so many of your units inspired my thinking.” Dale continued “I always liked the rascal ramp you use, so I drew up drawings of MY ideas and here is the end result.”

And quite an end result it is: beautiful, functional, and fun – just like what we want everything to be here at CedarWorks. According to Dale, the lucky boy who gets to use this every day and all his friends just love it. And that’s also just what we we want from anyone who uses a CedarWorks swing set.